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Post by karinlouise on Thu 7 Jan 2010 - 22:18

I've attempted to make a necklace from a new book mum bought me 'Bead Fantasies' by Takako Samejima. Some lovely lovely stuff and I really liked this one.

Its got three circular pendant things, that you weave figure 8 style, but its got 3 seed on one side and 1 on the other, so it curves to make a circle. These are then put on the thread with a larger stone in the middle (fire-polished on one, the ones I bought specially).

Anyway the problem is that in the book she says to use nylon thread. Thats all it says on the page itself, but then at the back of the book, talking threads, she says that the thread used for the projects are Nylon thread #1.5, #2 (she also mentions nylon coated wire which I know is the beadlon wire I have).

I assumed that the nylon thread was Nymo and so of course these lovely circles are very very floppy and won't lay against the skin.

Is it possible she is talking about 'fishing line' type thread. If that is the case I am a little concerned how to knot it, as I am not very good at finishing off just yet. Nymo is great, wire can be crimped, but tying this .. mmmmm not sure.


Please please help. I've never come across #__ with threads so not sure what it means.

Thanks in advance
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Post by Lorraine on Thu 7 Jan 2010 - 22:34

She uses a lot of crystals in her work, so I'm assuming that's what you have, Karin.

Nymo is great, but crystals will cut through it with wear. Try and get some Fireline which is like fishing thread yes, but can be knotted.

Otherwise, use a thin Beadalon. That's what I always use.

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Post by karinlouise on Thu 7 Jan 2010 - 22:40

This piece has bicones and the fire polished rounds in it, the nymo is def not right for it as its flopped. I have some fishing line that I bought with the aim of stringing anything, Mr Green

I've only got 7 strand 018dia acculon

What do the different numbers mean, is the thickness.

How would I knot the 'line' it needs to be able to hide in the bead according to the instructions.

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Post by Lorraine on Thu 7 Jan 2010 - 22:53

0.18 is too thick, hun. You'd need 0.12.

The strand count is how many wires are actually inside the wire. The more wires, the more flexible and the more expensive. The other numbers are the thickness, yes. The lower the number, the thinner the wire.

I would knot mine using a surgeons knot, but it would need to be pulled tight to go in the bead.

Have you tried googling to find out what others have used? Or go to UK Beaders and ask on there. It's a brill forum.

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Post by karinlouise on Sat 9 Jan 2010 - 19:25

OOOooo sounds like a good idea. TBH I don't look at other forums at all, only here. Never thought of googling for her work and comments. I will have a go.

Thanks again Lorraine, I love doing all this, but as usual worry beyond reason that I am doing it wrong. Plus when its something like this I think it needs to be the right tools.

The surgeons knot is the one where you loop the thread under twice before pulling tight, then do single loop for top knot. If that makes sense. Is that right ?

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Post by karinlouise on Sat 9 Jan 2010 - 19:48

have joined, will look properly later when Lily in bed Thread help, PLEASSSEEEE !!!!! Icon_wink daren't stay up here any longer, told martin I was only coming todo the lottery online, it took me one minute and that was 48 mins ago !!!!!!!!!

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Post by Lorraine on Sat 9 Jan 2010 - 20:02

karinlouise wrote:
The surgeons knot is the one where you loop the thread under twice before pulling tight, then do single loop for top knot. If that makes sense. Is that right ?
That's the one. Mr Green

UK Beaders is a brill forum. I used to spend many a happy hour there. User name LoopyLou, lol.

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Post by gingerjo on Sat 9 Jan 2010 - 21:19

I have the books but actually want to sell them now I think.

Anyway I think she uses nylon as in fishing line. Anything else just does not hold the chape as I have made some of them. Also in the picture it looks like clear fishing line. You need to pop a drop of DG on the knot.
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Post by karinlouise on Sat 9 Jan 2010 - 21:40

Lorraine, I did see a loobylou but once I went into post realised it wasn't you. Mr Green

Jo, thanks for that. I'm going to have a go with the thinner fishing line I have. Just need to rescue my craft area now, been sorting the trays and done more than I needed to so there's stuff everywhere.

Thanks both of you, as soon as I get it done I promise to put pic up. I'm looking forward to it being finished.

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